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洋務運動和山寨工業

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發表于 2015-10-29 13:34:23 | 只看該作者 |倒序瀏覽 |閱讀模式
以前的國內近代史,有一塊是“洋務運動”。洋務運動是中國工業的最早階段,通過洋務運動,中國有了工業,不過大清還是完了。

改革開放后,假冒偽劣工業逐步發展,最新的叫法是山寨工業。山寨工業不是國內的全部,但對中國發展成為世界第二大經濟體的貢獻,感覺有相當大的比例。

有個說法是,山寨讓中國得到了很大的利益,但中國只得到了饅頭,怎么做饅頭還是不知道。如果別人不做饅頭了,中國還是會餓死。

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發表于 2015-10-29 13:48:30 | 只看該作者
有利有弊。不同階段利弊不同。利在短期,弊在長期。
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 樓主| 發表于 2015-10-29 14:05:54 | 只看該作者
老鷹 發表于 2015-10-29 13:48
有利有弊。不同階段利弊不同。利在短期,弊在長期。

教材對洋務運動的評價是,沒有學習西方先進的政治制度,光學習技術是不行的。
聯想到山寨工業,整個經營一是偷,二是瞎干,能搞好工業嗎?

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再過幾年,找個畫圖的,就是稀缺動物了,  發表于 2015-10-29 14:53
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發表于 2015-10-29 14:45:57 | 只看該作者
張之洞為了調和清廷統治階級頑固派和改良派之間的矛盾,系統地總結了自己的洋務實踐,把前輩的思想歸納為“中學為體,西學為用”這樣一個口號。對照日本的明治維新,就能知道為何最后清王朝滅了,而日本卻強大了。意識形態不改,只學工業技術,行不通的。
對照現在,難道真的比洋務運動高明多少?思想保守有過之而無不及。

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發表于 2015-10-29 15:01:27 | 只看該作者
可別拿制造業侮辱饅頭,饅頭可是諸葛亮做的,人家可是中國有史以來的大發明家,如果木牛流馬能傳到今天,連大頭愛因,可能都啥也不是

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回帖不要離題,要談饅頭請另開帖  發表于 2015-10-29 15:12
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發表于 2015-10-29 15:52:55 | 只看該作者
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你吃得完??  發表于 2015-10-29 20:26
老子高興  發表于 2015-10-29 20:23
大俠任性了  發表于 2015-10-29 20:08
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發表于 2015-10-29 16:11:21 | 只看該作者
山寨是學習的開始,每個階段都要涌現一批為民族工業發展進步的實干家。
支持LZ,饅頭另開貼
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發表于 2015-11-2 16:52:15 | 只看該作者
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