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標題: Can anybody give me some advice working with foreign superior? [打印本頁]

作者: 吃飽吃好 時間: 2016-9-26 20:20
標題: Can anybody give me some advice working with foreign superior?
I'm going to work in a Germany company as a machining engineer in technology department, there is a German
manager who interviewed me month ago will be my boss, He has good machining knowledge and speaks English
very quickly(sometimes I couldn't listen clearly), I don't have any experience working with German (even
a foreigner), I'm an introverted guy, and I have rich experience in machining field but don't have any
experience in their products, I know there are many challenges ahead, Can anybody in this forum give me
some advice or share a little bit experience working with foreign superior? thanks in advance.

作者: 未來第一站 時間: 2016-9-26 20:28
only admire

作者: wfsoochow 時間: 2016-9-26 20:30
Think about everything very clearly and prepare for your opinion and next activity

作者: albert.tang 時間: 2016-9-26 20:37
good good study, day day up

作者: 迷茫的小鮮肉 時間: 2016-9-26 20:39
I want to study English too

作者: 恁老廝 時間: 2016-9-26 20:53
食好兜(幫)相報(介紹)

作者: 召喚師170 時間: 2016-9-26 20:54
為什么我都看的懂你說的是什么？直覺你英語還不夠溜？

作者: itwotwo 時間: 2016-9-26 21:14
'months' or 'a month'

作者: kuangaoteiji 時間: 2016-9-27 00:17
四級沒過的人看懂了
你該進修ENGLISH了

作者: Alex_rcpilot 時間: 2016-9-27 00:57
Bit of a cliché here when it comes to "fast speakers". Most Germans don't even speak English, the rest of them speak with an accent. That must be why it turned out a pain in the ass for you. Working with foreigners can be tricky 'cause you can't simply expect there to be a golden rule that fits all foreigners. They come in abundant varieties. So you must get to know him first, just as with a common Chinese superior.

1. Clear language barrier ASAP. Start with most common phrases which you use every day. Establish a failsafe system so that whenever communication fails, you may immediately inform him and he will be able to fix problems with you without significant time losses.

2. Review your responsibilities in your current position within your company. Know what your superior expects you to do, and how you're supposed to do it well with your expertise.

3. Observe his preferences, what he likes and dislikes. What's the best angle to come to him to express an idea most efficiently. Germans emphasize on efficiency.

4. Although it might already be overwhelming to work on your English, I'd still recommend that you start learning German, even just a little bit. Andere Länder, andere Sitten. Deutschkurs sollte sich als nützlich erweisen.

作者: 喜歡機械設計 時間: 2016-9-27 02:10
I used to work with many German colleagues.  Their English is typically quite good (Europe is small with many even smaller countries. So many of the people grow up with several languages.  They are naturally multi-lingual.)
Practice your English now.  Practice and talk to the wall when you are alone.
Remember, conversation is not as important as speech.  What I mean is: it's not time for you to practice how to be funny and how to make friends now.  You need to practice work-English, i.e. speak for a minute or two to clearly express what you mean, about a work related issue.
That way, you won't be misunderstood by your colleagues and wont' lose out during meetings.
Your boss will feel you are more capable and hardworking, than if you don't speak well at work.
There is a big culture difference between the East and the West.  Don't be "work hard quietly and only let your boss discover, by surprise, that you are really good".  Try to be "you work hard but try even harder to let everybody know that you are working hard".  Many Indian people are very good at this and they really screw up Chinese co-workers at workplace.
Good luck!

作者: 海慕之 時間: 2016-9-27 08:34
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作者: 所羅門_x 時間: 2016-9-27 08:39
好有高大上的感覺！

你的經驗飛雇主所能用上的，也沒在外企干過，害怕自己勝任不了，話說回來，你說的我都沒看懂，我都能給你建議，好好和哥學學，大膽些。。。

作者: wdennisw 時間: 2016-9-27 08:49
try to use simple word to conmunicate and know about the technical word in your wrok.

作者: 斜陽西 時間: 2016-9-27 10:06
just do it

作者: 吃飽吃好 時間: 2016-9-27 10:21

喜歡機械設計發表于 2016-9-27 02:10
3 b3 a" W" X$ P4 E# WI used to work with many German colleagues. Their English is typically quite good (Europe is small ...

Upvote, what you shared is very practical to me.

作者: 淡然 時間: 2016-9-27 10:33
本帖最后由淡然于 2016-9-27 10:35 編輯

It is a very good chance to learn .Good luck!

作者: 小小劉llt 時間: 2016-9-27 10:36

Alex_rcpilot 發表于 2016-9-27 00:57
" Y# I' S, ]4 j, ?) R8 T$ i8 qBit of a cliché here when it comes to "fast speakers". Most Germans don't even speak English, the r ...

Hello Alex. I think your advice is professional and helpful. And I have never worked in a foreign company,so I am wondering if there are some political fights in Germany companies like there are in chinese ones. I will appreciate very much if I receive your response. Best wishes.

作者: 吃飽吃好 時間: 2016-9-27 11:46

Alex_rcpilot 發表于 2016-9-27 00:57' b" I0 P% ~9 b# e5 [( T" a8 Q) L
Bit of a cliché here when it comes to "fast speakers". Most Germans don't even speak English, the r ...

Learning German is a fresh advice for me, it absolutely requires a great deal of determination.

作者: Alex_rcpilot 時間: 2016-9-27 15:35
本帖最后由 Alex_rcpilot 于 2016-9-27 15:38 編輯

小小劉llt 發表于 2016-9-27 10:36
) A% l8 ~3 k' d1 K, G* ^Hello Alex. I think your advice is professional and helpful. And I have never worked in a foreig ...

Office politics is ubiquitous, it's just a matter of extent. Grown-ass adults can put up with benign politics in most companies. But every now and then a calculated duchebag finds his way into a certain companies and manages to redefine shameless.
I used to work at a Japanese corporation in Beijing. My P.M and G.M were both Chinese. Great atmosphere here in the lab filled with Chinese engineers. Sales office next doors had a few Japanese supervisors. One floor above, the general accountant, Yoshimi（吉見）， was also a Japanese. Japs obviously didn't trust us with their money.

Most Japanese colleagues were upright, hard working and treated us with respect. But Yoshimi was a real piece of work. Even other Japanese saw him like a freak. Guy probably grew up with polio, when he happened to go to he bathroom ahead of you he would walk slightly crippled and glance back over his shoulder with a vigiant stare at you, as if you were to stab him in the back. Vicious as he was, HQ liked him, 'cause he helped cut cost down by messing with everybody at work. This is as bad as office politics can be at a foreign corporation. There's nothing you could do to remove him from that position.

Same thing could happen to any company, including German ones. But engineers carry around a blessing, which is the nature of their job.
1. There're a lot less female engineers. I don't mean to spread sexual prejudice, but politics tend to flurish in feminine officies.
2. Even for female egineers, they would be technical-oriented and are good with logical thinking.
3. Engineers are less full of shit towards other humans because their job requires their attention to focus on lifeless objects.

Back in that company I worked at, our lab was the best space for one to be on the whole level. We could crack jokes with one another and share interesting findings, make wild guesses or simply shut up and work. The accountant, cashier, our big-boobed receptionist and sometimes our G.M all loved to hump in every once in a while an laugh with us. My advice to office politics is fairly simple: focus on your own work. If it gets in your way too much, leave.

作者: Alex_rcpilot 時間: 2016-9-27 15:45

吃飽吃好發表于 2016-9-27 11:46$ ~- R6 E: O7 ?5 e& V
Learning German is a fresh advice for me, it absolutely requires a great deal of determination.

Don't just learn hard, learn smart. Get to know your own learning curve, install smart apps on your phoen to help learning in a more natural way. Apps like Duolingo, Linguee, etc. comes in real handy on your smartphone.

Pay for a good proxy and gain access to Google and Youtube. Lots of channels over Youtube with native Germans teaching Deutschkurs in English. They are meant for English speakers but it's better than having nothing.

Nail the alphabet and pronouciation before proceding with gender, volcabulary and gramma. Tips are all available over Youtube.

作者: szg不敗 時間: 2016-9-27 18:42
厲害的，不過這是個中文網站，來提問，用英語，回答也英語，看完一頁，中文我可以看三頁。。。。。。== ！

作者: 迷茫的小鮮肉 時間: 2016-9-28 20:21

迷茫的小鮮肉發表于 2016-9-26 20:39
2 c! s: s. O" ZI want to study English too

yes ,it is me, I am now at jixietop

作者: 歸零人生 時間: 2016-9-29 11:08
加油

作者: jack03223 時間: 2016-10-3 18:40
just go ahead ,whatever your english is very good now , you should familar with Gemany's life first

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